teyla | Peter and Natalie

I just rewatched Blackpool. It's still as awesome as I remember, and I know I promised someone a pimping post, which I'll probably be posting in the next couple of days. However, for now I have a question for everyone who's already seen it.

I love Peter Carlisle, and every time I watch Blackpool, I'm rooting for him to get the girl. But when I think about it, I don't think he actually deserves her. He's a creepy, messed up bastard, just the same as Ripley, only that he conceals it with big brown bambi eyes and a good way with words. I mean, I'd go for him, no questions asked, but I'm not like Natalie. I'm not a good person, not in the sense that I put other people first. Natalie always puts others first, and with Carlisle, she's stumbling into the same trap she ended up in with Ripley. I don't know if she's learned how to protect herself from people like Ripley and Carlisle, so even though I smile and clap my hands together in glee when they finally get together, I don't think it'll end well. Carlisle loves her, I've no doubt about that, but it's in his nature to walk over any- and everyone else to get what he wants, and I don't think that's something people can change about themselves.

The future I see for Carlisle and Natalie is either a stuck-in-a-rut marriage or Carlisle leaving Natalie. Natalie would not leave Carlisle, she's proved that she doesn't back out of a commitment like marriage. The third option, of course, would be Natalie dying, which is the one I usually go for in my head, because it's still the most romantic one. (Because secretly, I totally am a romantic. Oh yes.)

So, am I completely off in my assessment? What's your take on Peter's and Natalie's future?

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I am actually of exactly the same opinion of yours. I *love* Carlisle - largely 'cause he's brill - but I don't half wish to punch him in the eye sometimes. :P

He would be terrible with Natalie - for precisely the reasons you've outlined - but he does love her and she does (well, at least *thinks* she does) love him so I really want them to work out.

Mostly I had them (pre- Who S4) married together in Pete's World 'til the Cybermen killed Natalie.

Then Carlisle was sad.

Then he was 'shipped with Rose. Or Ripley. Or Mickey. Or Pete 'n Jackie. Or...

I'm sure you get the picture. :P

*ends comment of insanity now*

*sheepishly hides*

Oh, incidently, where can I download your mood theme? I simply adore it. :)

*runs away now*

Yeah, Natalie needs to die, doesn't she. She's just too good for this world. ;)

I just remembered that I did post about wanting a Blackpool fic that basically has the plot that some criminal Peter is investigating kills Natalie, and Peter snaps and kills the criminal, and then Ripley has to help Peter out of the mess he got himself into, or maybe he has to help him run away and hide ~~in Las Vegas~~. Either way, Ripley and Peter would end up shipped. I still really want that fic, now that I think about it.

Strangely, I never had the urge to cross Blackpool with Doctor Who. For some reason, that's never crossed my mind.

And the mood theme is right here!

I didn't like Carlisle all that much. Yeah, he was charming and you can see why Natalie would swoon in his arms, but I could never quite get over the fact that he encouraged her to commit adultery, lied to her about his identity, and tried very hard to put her husband in prison. That's... not a good basis for a relationship. I was quite surprised when they ended up together so romantically. I can't see it lasting.

Yeah, you know, those three things aren't exactly on the 'I'm a nice guy' list, but I'm not overly bothered by the first and the last, because Ripley was fucking other women left, right and center, and if Natalie had actually still been in love with him, she wouldn't have gone with Carlisle, and because Carlisle was doing his job trying to put Ripley in prison. Ripley did look pretty guilty. Carlisle got a little fixated later on, but he did take himself off the case at that point.

The fact that he lied to her was I thought not so much a bad thing to do as it was a stupid thing to do. He should have known you can't keep a secret like that for long. It would have made his life a whole lot easier to tell her who he actually was.

Idk, I do like him, because he's smart and yeah, charming, and I think if he were with someone who's more like him - who knows what they want and how to get it - it would be an awesome relationship. With Natalie, though, I have to agree with you, I don't think it would last very long.

Carlisle got a little fixated later on, but he did take himself off the case at that point.

So fixated that he actually attempted to fake evidence against Ripley. I lost some respect for him there. And Carlisle was going behind Ripley's back with the affair too, which was very unprofessional of him. Hey, Ripley, I'm here to do my best to get you in jail and while I'm at it, I'm going to run off with your wife too! He really tried to screw Ripley over. The only reason we root for Carlisle at all is that Ripley is even more of a bastard in comparison.

The other thing about Carlisle's relationship with Natalie, apart from the lying, is that it does come across as a bit creepy-stalkerish. He seems to get obsessed with her almost instantly. I don't know where they're going to find a basis for a strong relationship, because all they seemed to have was strong sexual attraction, and once the lust fades, what's left?

I agree about Carlisle. I don't know about their future together at all, but yeah-- I do see it is a bit of a disaster waiting to happen, because he is going to fuck her over. I believe he would leave her at some point down the road, his eye caught by someone else. I would allow that he loves her now but that he would love someone else just as easily and just as passionately, and clearly obsessedly, as he does her and that she'd be left in a ditch by the roadside (figuratively, I think) and would probably end up crawling back to Ripley. I don't see her as a very strong, independent person, just one of those women who will always hang on some guy's arm.

Idk if he would fall as hard for someone else as he did for Natalie - I do think he was honest about that - but I don't know if that would stop him from screwing her over. I don't think he's like Ripley, falling into bed with women at every opportunity, but I think that his problem is more one of not paying enough attention to the wants and needs of the person he's with. I do think it would work out for a while, and I don't think Natalie would go back to Ripley, but I can imagine that Natalie and Peter would end up in a marriage where at some point, both of them would ask themselves how the hell they managed to wind up so old and bitter.

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