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Flesh and Stone
Hm. Sort of enjoyed the episode, but I didn't get any of the big tricks the Doctor pulled. Gravity? Walking like she can see? Communicator, angels, clergymen, what? Maybe I'm being dumb, but . . . why could the angels suddenly move when they were looking at one another? Why did Octavian not simply turn his head to the side and look at the angel until someone got a hammer and a chisel and got him out of there? Why the hell would it shut down Amy's vision center in her brain if she closed her eyes? And why would it stop the angels if she walked like she could see? Iiii dunno. Things just sort of happened, all the time, and it seemed like there should have been an explanation, but there somehow wasn't. Or maybe I missed it.
Part of it was maybe that I had no idea how that set was supposed to be laid out. So the spaceship was upside down? Or on its side? And the gravity was on, and sucked people to the hull of the spaceship but then let them stand up straight inside of the spaceship, and then got turned off and made the angels fall into the crack which was in the forest which was on its side because it was on the ship . . . I dunno. I got confused. Also, if the gravity was failing, and the door to the forest was open, and Amy and River and the Doctor were hanging from the console in the control room, how the hell did they get out of there? Because the crack might have been closed, but they were still hanging above a so-and-so-many-hundred feet drop, with failed gravity.
And if the angels fell into the crack, that meant that they never existed, which would have meant that the angel on the ship would have never existed, which would have meant that not only was it gone from Amy's head, it would also never have been the reason for that mission to start in the first place. Paradox. Also, Octavian should have been alive again. Was he? I looked for him, but didn't see him.
Anyway. I'm trying to make sense of it, but it's like trying to get that one cable separated from the ten bajillion others that you stuffed into your cable drawer without making sure they didn't get all tangled up. More or less impossible, and very frustrating.
APART FROM THE ISSUES I HAD WITH THE PLOT--ahem--I did like Eleven in this episode. I am starting to like him more and more. He's cute with River; I like how he totally gets a kick out of meeting her backwards. That's very Doctor. And wooh, River killed the Doctor. Or, you know, she did in this time line. I suppose she won't, really. I still like Alex Kingston, even though I'm still not really sure what to make of River.
Amy was alright in this episode. She didn't do much. I did like that they didn't let her manage to walk through the forest, because River was right, that would never have worked. But it did rob Amy of the one active thing she could have done in this episode. The scene in the end was sort of cute, but a bit random. I don't really see the chemistry between Amy and the Doctor--they're more like father and daughter, from the way their interaction has been built up, and Amy suddenly jumping the Doctor was a bit . . . what are you doing? They should give her something to wear that doesn't make her look like a 14-year-old. That might help, maybe.
I'm making it sound like I hated the episode. I didn't, really. I was just completely puzzled at the plot. The rest seemed alright. I like Eleven. He's working out. I think everyone is still sort of finding their feet. Although they're on episode five now; that excuse won't hold for much longer.
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I *adore* Amy more than I have words for. The scene in the forest and the scene at the end of the episode really got me. I don't ship it but I love their interactions.
*ETA: I love river xD Her and the Doctor are fun.
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Amy's alright. I would love to see more about her background/family. She's so undefined; she only exists in relation to the Doctor. It's hard to figure out her character if all she ever does is react to the main character.
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I did enjoy this ep and I really like Eleven and MS.
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Anyway. Every word of confusion about angels, gravity and Doctor+Amy - agreed absolutely and complete. Though I feel Amy as the Doctors little sister, not daughter... Sorry, but Smith seems to be too green to play anyone older than himself...
Concerning the "killing" - who said it was the Doctor? They said it was "the best man she ever've known". I'm not covinced it was the Doctor. Too obvious. Remember? We all thought that the Master would be the cause of Doctors death. Even the Doctor thought that. Though good times of braintwisting puzzles could end with RTD leaving...
And... Does anybody have any thoughts about WHO tought River to operate the TARDIS? ;-D
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Nope, I didn't. At least not for very long. I 'knew' he'd be there, but didn't think that he'd be the cause of the Doctor's regeneration.
WHO tought River to operate the TARDIS?
I'm still rooting for... wait for it: THE MASTER! *gg*
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I'm still rooting for... wait for it: THE MASTER! *gg*
*ggg* Yup, I'm sure of it....
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Smith seems to be too green to play anyone older than himself
Well, people said that about David Tennant when he started out. I think Smith is doing a pretty good job with what he has. Whenever the scripts give him an opportunity to act, he takes it, and usually does quite well. I like the character he's building so far. We'll see how that goes.
who said it was the Doctor?
Nobody. But it was strongly indicated, and I think that Moffat isn't one to play mind games like that. His plots are usually fairly predictable. I might be wrong, though; it might not be the Doctor.
Does anybody have any thoughts about WHO tought River to operate the TARDIS?
Could have been the Rani. The Rani was a pretty good pilot, as far as I remember. Also, I want them to cast Gillian Anderson as the Rani, because that would make me happy.
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Oh, yes, Rani was a damn good pilot. Though, I think it was the Master...
I'm still thinking, that Rani is the chief of TimeAgency and is trying to restore Time Lords. 'Cause she was a damn good genetis too *sneer*
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I don't know, he's been flying that box for over 700 years; I would imagine that you'd figure something like that out at some point. But your fanon makes more sense than the actual line in the show, so. ;)
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I really liked Amy jumping the Doctor, because it was shallow and I totally think MS is in love with Karen, from how he's gushing about her in the confidentials.
I like Alex Kingston, too, and I think his relationship with her is fun. Although the thing with flying the Tardis and the brakes, and her having pictures of all his incarnations was not making much sense. If she's met them, he would remember, right?
Also, about the meeting backwards thingy. Isn't he a timelord and has a different sense of continuity? How does that work?
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D'aw, I need to watch the confidentials; haven't done that yet. Are they worth watching?
her having pictures of all his incarnations
. . . did she? I didn't even notice. Maybe the Doctor gave them to her? You're right, she can't have met them.
Isn't he a timelord and has a different sense of continuity?
Well, yes, in theory. But in actuality, he does usually meet people in a normal time line, simply to spare the viewer too much brain-twisting. ;) So I kind of like the idea that they turned that around for once. Of course, then Moffat has to go and put things in there that make no sense even with the Doctor meeting River backwards . . .