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teyla ([personal profile] teyla) wrote2008-11-05 08:24 pm

Ten Support, Obama, Nano

Alright, so [livejournal.com profile] ten_support was a short and failed experiment for me. I'm sad David's leaving, but I'm so bad at keeping my mouth shut when people come up with theories about how he was bullied out of the role by the show runners - what? Seriously, what? He's a money making machine; I'm sure they offered him shitloads of money to stay. - and when they're so sensitive about the subject that you can't even mention Eleven without some of them breaking down crying.

I hope this won't affect the decision of the two people who I met over at [livejournal.com profile] ten_support to friend me. I would love to still have you on my f-list and get to know you better. I am mostly leaving the community because I don't want to aggravate anyone over there with my not entirely negative perception of David's decision to leave the show. Apparently, it's just not the place for me, at least not while emotions are still running as high as they are. Rock on, though, you guys. Ten deserves all the love he can get. ♥

Oh, and [livejournal.com profile] x_bluerose_x, I'd still be up for making that layout if you want me to. Just let me know :).

Last night, I pulled my first real all-nighter since... well, since Stratford last month, I guess. Lol. It was worth it, though. I'm loving all the hope and the love that is spreading throughout LJ, and I am so hoping that this will bring the change to the American people that they are so obviously hoping for. I've always loved the States for what they originally stand for - unity, equality, solidarity - and I'm so happy that you guys once more proved that those values are still in there somewhere. Go USA! :D

I think I will skip on the nano'ing today. According to my schedule, I'm supposed to be writing 1230 words today, but I'm 1535 words in the plus, and my brain is mush. So, for you guys on the nano filter - no update today. This will give you a chance to catch up with what I have so far! *subtle pimpage is oh so very subtle*

[identity profile] x-bluerose-x.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I completely hear you--and I know that the community can't please everyone. I could try and just go bald pulling out my hair. You and two others left, I suspect due to the talks about being bullied.

We should focus on the squee and less on the bashing of RTD and company, I think.

And yes, layouts are cool. Sorry the community didn't work out for you....
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[identity profile] shishmish.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Bullied? Hahahahahaha! Quick, don the tinfoil hats. Oh people trying to find any reason that shows he didn't leave on his own terms and desperate to return. Get the hell over it plz...

[identity profile] x-bluerose-x.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh gawds. It wasn't anything like that. It's just that some feel that he loved being in the show so much that we don't think it's entirely his idea. I personally do NOT feel that he was bullied but may have been convinced to do so now while people would miss him versus being pushed out the door for overstaying his welcome.
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[identity profile] shishmish.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously?! He's more than likely been thinking about this for a very long time, and doing the likes of Hamlet, Love Labours Lost and Einsten and Eddington probably got his moth watering for more roles that were different to the Doctor. He can't stay forever and do a Tom Baker, i.e. stay on for aaaggges and believe he is The Doctor. From my time doing drama (and still doing it now) I understand that as an actor, he needs to challenge himself and add more to his talents and skills. Acting is a learning career, and not one where you can stay in the same spot forever.




I don't think for one moment they would kick their number one actor to the curb. He's huge for the BBC and I sense they were probably less than pleased he wanted to leave. When he brings in the money he does, no one wants to loose someone like him. Especially with the chaos they have being going through recently. 2010 is going to be a testing time for them, what with a whole new writing crew so getting rid of the only constant wouldn't be a good thing for them.

[identity profile] x-bluerose-x.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It was his dream job, and we all know he enjoyed it, so yes, seriously! There's nothing wrong with that. I'm sure he left with bittersweet feelings, and I'm sure if there WAS a decision made a while ago, it was made before a) anyone would realize how popular he would be and b) how much he would like the job.

Honestly, I think it would've been a better transition if he stayed on for just one more season under Moffat. A shame that won't happen.

Kicking to the curb is a WAY harsh way of putting it. I don't think anyone believes that. I think that some decisions were reached along the lines of "Doctor Who always means change, and changing the Doctor" and that's what fueled it.

No conspiracy theories here; just looking at the situation from multiple perspectives.
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[identity profile] shishmish.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly, it was his dream job. Why would he want to leave his dream job as someone who overstayed? He doesn't want to tarnish the show and wants whats best for it, so if leaving now is best for a show he's loved since a child then thats what he has decided what to do. Would you like it if people hated you for destroying or overstaying your mark in a show you loved? No, I don't think so.

Yes, change. This has been happening since 1963!!! Why should this be any different?! The Doctor regenerates, it what makes him the Doctor *headdesk*

[identity profile] x-bluerose-x.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
On one hand I agree, but on the other hand I've of the opinion "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." But that's the problem, isn't it? Timing. You don't want to leave too late, and yet leaving too early would put a downer on things as well.

I don't envy DT his decision and I hope that he made the right one. Selfishly speaking, I wish he stayed and I'm rather afraid for the show. If they don't find someone who has the same amount of personal charisma, it could crash and bomb. I'd HATE that. This is my favorite show.
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[identity profile] shishmish.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
How do you know its too early? Its no where near as early as Eccleston; I would have loved to have seen more of Nine but he did one season, where as Tennant as doone three full seasons and a collection of specials.

He made the right one for himself, and when it comes to his career its the only decision he has to to think of. Yes, when it comes to acting you have to be selfish.

I'm dead excited! A new writing team and Doctor for 2010? Its like its a whole new start and one I welcome. And there are tons of actors out there that have the right qualities to do the role. And if the Doctor was to be simular to Ten, it'd be wrong. The Doctor generates into someone different each time so someone with the same amount of charisma, energy etc as Tennant would be a wrong move.

And some fans who have loved the show since the Classic era hate what was done when Tennant was in the role and RTD was incharge, so for them this is something to look forward to. The new crew and cast will need to consider them as well as the newer fans.

[identity profile] x-bluerose-x.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish I could be excited, but I'm not...sorry, but that's how I feel. Yes, season four had a LOT of problems and I'd love to see them corrected. But I was hoping for a much better transition than this.

How do I know it's too early? Because that's how I feel. How would DT, RTD, or SM know it's too early? Who knows? They made their best judgment and went with it--and I don't hold it against them.

I'm a Classic Who fan as well as a New Who, so I can't be lumped with one versus the other.
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[identity profile] shishmish.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
For all you know it could be an awesome transition. Wait, this is RTD we're talking about here. The man couldn't do something right if he tried. The sooner he buggers off the better.

Neither can I, but I also feel that some of the decisions that were made about plots and characters were damn near awlful but also loved other episodes too (mostly Steven Moffat).