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teyla ([personal profile] teyla) wrote2007-11-29 12:51 am
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Fandom Contemplations

So, I've been thinking about creativity on the internet.

I really am very frequently more than amazed at what people in fandom can do. With art, with graphics, with video editing, with writing, with music, with keeping up a more or less smoothly running organization like fandom without everything falling apart.

The creativity I see here on the internet every day is baffling. The ideas some people come up with! In online fandom, there really are no limits to your creativity. No matter what you do, at some point somebody already did something more rebellious than that, so there's a lot less forced rebellion in online art as there is in other art. On the other hand, there are no restrictions. Somewhere, you will find an audience for anything, so you can really do whatever your creativity inspires you to do.

I think that's amazing. It's inspiring. It's addictive. And it makes every day life and every day interaction with people who are more or less strangers - people at uni, the work place, wherever - seem so much more dull and uninteresting, because there are all those social taboos and rules restricting your potential. Showing a RL friend some of your art work requires a relatively high level of familiarity. On the internet, you post your art to communities for hundreds, sometimes thousands of people to see it.

I love this. I really, really love this. My life would be so much less interesting without fandom. And it makes me really angry and disappointed at the so-called 'normal' people when they go and dismiss people in fandom as 'daydreamers' and 'wasting their lives' and 'being loners and losers'. It's hard not to react in return by dismissing them as close-minded, two-dimensional beings whose only desire in life seems to be to fulfill the demands a corrupt, brutal and hypocritical society poses.

It's just as wrong as what they are doing. But sometimes, I just can't help it.

[identity profile] inlaterdays.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
What you said! I don't understand why fanart is considered less of an accomplishment than any other kind of art. The only thing that's different is the source of inspiration.

[identity profile] inlaterdays.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Someone on my f-list is publishing a novel (she signed the contract just recently!) which started out as Phantom of the Opera fanfiction. It's really exciting :)

So it has nothing to do with talent; it's just writing or drawing or making icons or layouts or banners for what speaks to you personally. We make fanart because it's what we love, not because it's all we're good for.

[identity profile] elicia8.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Amen to that.

Everything Michelangelo did could be considered fanart. What's the diff, yeah?

[identity profile] inlaterdays.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly! Bible fanart. And Classical Greek & Roman sculpture was mythology fanart in large part. Medieval tapestries were history fanart.

It all comes down to characters, people, or events that we find compelling and meaningful.

[identity profile] elicia8.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
The most wonderful feeling in the world to me is when I'm able to encourage other people to share their creativity. It sucks that so many people assume they're entitled to dictate how that creativity should manifest itself, and it sucks even worse that people have to let those feelings stop them or discourage them.

Live and let live, right?

In other words, I love this post. :)

[identity profile] elicia8.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
In fandom, you get to see what the real world is actually missing out on, and sometimes, it's almost scary.

Wow, that is the absolute truth. On a personal note, I find it almost painful when someone suggests I sell--it's often the first response to good art. "You could be so rich."

Uh, not really. Do you know any rich artists? Lol.

Kind of heartening, though--people so openly admire talent. They go crazy over it. And they praise it in the only way they know how--by attaching a dollar value to it. It's wonderful how readily people will do that with art, and it shows where their values truly lie, but it's sort of a shame it has to be money. Money is not the same as value--or at least, it shouldn't be.

I guess the goal, then, is to keep plugging along, nudging people to get brave, develop trust in themselves as you mentioned, and show their stuff despite the obstacles. The bravest and most talented people I know are definitely the people I discovered in fandom :)

[identity profile] onceforluck.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
There's nothing I can really add to this post.

You've said it all, and I whole-heartedly agree. Just, yes. Yes. Fandom is surprisingly beautiful, and I think it's easy to overlook that.

[identity profile] eponymous-rose.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
Fandom is just brilliant - where else are you going to get instant feedback on your creative work, but still (theoretically) get encouragement to keep improving? Fanfic has been the greatest boon to my writing, because it's taught me to accept criticism and simultaneously jump way out of my comfort zone.

And the discussions! It's a real... well, it's a "YANA" feeling. ;) I'm so used to having my own little obsessions that it's a genuine treat to find other people willing to squee over some things and seriously debate others.

A lot of it's a case of affirmation, of justifications of my own little foibles, but there's definitely something much deeper there, and I think you've touched on it. I don't share my writing with RL friends or family, I only rarely share my meta with 'em. But strangers online? Sure!

And then come the online friendships, and that's something I've never been able to make some people understand. A huge part of that is anonymity - you connect over one particular thing in common, and the rest is largely irrelevant. And you can't do that in real life! If you meet someone at... say, a fencing match, chances are you're gonna be socially obligated at some point to talk about something other than fencing. But that obligation's just not present online - you can focus in on a single thing as much as you like and not seem rude at all.

It's neat stuff, really. Great post! :D

[identity profile] daasgrrl.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, this post reminds me what a wonderful place fandom can be sometimes. As to the people who don't 'get' it, I'm reminded of the quote that "one half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other". I mean, ask me to go watch a game of basketball or whatever, and I'm already making excuses... :)
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[identity profile] wihluta.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 12:09 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. YES and YES again.

You are soooo right. :-)

It's such a shame that it's so hard to explain what fandom actually can give you to other non-fanish people. I always try and get all starry-eyed and excited and they just look and shrug and say "If it makes you happy." (Which is, I have to admit a rather positive reaction...)
YES IT MAKES ME HAPPY!!!

edited, just because I CAN!!!!!!
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[identity profile] wihluta.livejournal.com 2007-11-30 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
HAHA - LOL - Yes that's exactly what happens...

And they get all glassy-eyed, when I talk about it for more than 30 seconds. Just tuning me out. Their bad.

[identity profile] lf2871.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
T'eyla I agree with you entirely: fandom can be - and for the most part is - a wonderfull thing. It's amazeing to have so many people, creative, intelectual wonderfull people, share the same passion for something that you do. To see some of the fan-fic and fan-art that people create is inspiring: right down to icons, which can be awesome!

It encourges me to be more creative in turn, though admitadly i've written stuff since I was eight but not the point.

People don't often get it in RL: i think it has to be something you experence youreself before you can understand it.